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Subject: Contact and Boundaries
From: ggary@emory.edu (ggary@emory.edu)
To: jimedavery@att.net;
Cc: jgary@emory.edu;
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:33 PM
Hello Jim Ed,
You must know that in the future, there will be clear boundaries for making contact with Janet and me, especially Janet. This is not to say there will be no further contacts with us, but it must be under a number of conditions.
Janet wanted to add her word before we set the conditions together. Here is her note to you:
Jim Ed,
I was more than a little disturbed by your visit on Wednesday. In the spirit of neighborliness and the Thanksgiving holiday coming up, I opened our house to you, even though I felt s bit uncomfortable doing so, especially in Bob?s absence.
We ironed out what you perceived to be a rejection on my part.
When you wanted to share the symbols that are meaningful to you, I was interested, although having a hard time ?getting it? in the way you told it to me. No input from me seemed to even get through to you, or matter at all.
I was very disturbed when you talked of your depression, thinking about getting your gun, and when you told me you are the ?Anti-Christ? and a ?crack-head? I began to be somewhat afraid of you and wished I had not opened my door to you.
When I told you I needed medications and even that didn?t stop your monologue, I said it again and began to leave the room. At that point you did thank me for listening and left, saying you would leave your stuff so you could come back. You either didn?t hear me or didn?t pay attention when I said, ?No, take them with you.?
Bob and I both feel we and our space were violated, and Bob has drawn up some conditions under which we may all co-exist as neighbors. I concur with what he has written below. Janet
The Conditions:
1. There can be no further non-negotiated visits on your part with either or both of us.
2. We are not available to participate in your theological doctrines which you presented to Janet for more than one hour and fifteen minutes. You failed to leave our house until the second time Janet indicated she needed a break for medicines. You may not know that Janet has Parkinson's and extended stressful events activate her symptoms. Furthermore, Janet needed to take her medicines and tried to bring your theological discourse to a close, but you continued. Furthermore, you left your basket of possessions in our house in order that you would have assurance of returning to our house. That is far too presumptuous for us.
3. You do not have permission to enter our property or phone our house unless you can abide by these limits.
4. We do not listen to religious talk from anyone, let alone invite them into our home. We do not do that with you. We share our faith with people who ask questions of us and our religious convictions. You had no questions for Janet, only pressing her to agree with your doctrine.
G. Robert Gary, Sr. ThD
Subject: Re: Contact and Boundaries
From: James Avery (jimedavery@att.net)
To: ggary@emory.edu;
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:08 PM
I'm sorry for the pain I caused you. It was not my intention. I do not deny having personal problems. Was actually reaching out for some help.
Again, I apologize for barging into your home and upsetting Janet. I do not own a gun or plan to.
jim ed
''The physicists say that I am a mathematician, and the mathematicians say that I am a physicist,'' he said. ''I am a completely isolated man and though everybody knows me, there are very few people who really know me.''
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James,
I want to explain to you the delay in our response regarding a meeting. It has come to our attention that you are not allowed on the campus of Emory University or the grounds of Glenn Memorial United Methodist Church, in accordance with restraining orders held by Emory Police. This is why we cannot invite you here for a meeting, and we want you to be cautioned that the staff is now aware of these circumstances.
In our conversations with Beth LaRocca-Pitts, we have also been made aware of the resources to which she directed you for assistance—particularly the Meth-Recovery meeting held at St. Mark UMC and a mental health facility. Alice and I agree, based on the brief encounters that we have had with you, that you would be best served by programs such as these. Neither of us are equipped to address the concerns you have regarding your addiction or the problems you are experiencing with certain members of this and other churches.
I would be happy to meet with you at one of the Emory Village restaurants to pray and to listen, but that is all I am able to offer you at this time. Again, to avoid a possibly damaging altercation, let me caution you that the staff here is aware of the restraining orders against you by Emory and Glenn Memorial and will have to call Emory Police should you come on campus again.
God’s peace,
josh
Hello Josh,
I was not aware that I was not allowed on the campus of Emory University or Glenn Memorial United Methodist Church. The only restraining order I'm aware of had a one year limitation. This all sounds pretty much the same perniciousness and prevarications.
And what happened to "no matter who you are or what you have done or left undone you will be welcomed at Glenn. No matter where you are on your faith road journey you are welcomed at Glenn."
Really....I'm I going to have to get a lawyer? Is this what it's coming too?
Answer one question for me Josh, did my mother fail me by taking me to that Methodist Church in Prescott, Arkansas as a child which I continued to be a part of until 18 years of age. You certainly are failing her. And this being a church on the campus of a liberal arts and science university. Can't even arraign for a fair hearing/clearing of the facts.
James Wagner said it himself, "sign of true intelligence is ability holding two conflicting thoughts at the same time and still being able to function."
You have failed.
I've already told you my opinion on John 3:16 ... "Christianity In a Nutshell".....being nothing more than a cognitive dissonance/dissonance reduction chart; nothing more, nothing less. That make you pretty much a dope dealer yourself...you are not innocent...."Pretty Boy Sunday."
"The higher up we go; the more difficult the tests becomes."
There is no such thing as hate being the short end of the same stick it much share with love. You guys have turned "love' into an obscene word.
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
~Gandhi
You really do need to get off that stool and read more books.
Sincerely yours,
James E. Avery, DVM
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On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:10 AM,
"James Avery"
wrote:
Dear Sister Beth,
Needing to verify that you have received an email from me requesting a meeting with you and two others from your church. Needing to know whether or not this can be arraigned; or what it is you need from me in order for this to happen? Again, I'm currently not working, therefore my schedule is completely flexible. Waiting to hear from you.
Any and as much information able providing to me in a timely manner, both positive and negative, will go a long way in helping me decide what would best be able helping me with the meths addiction if having to consider other alternatives. Requesting help from St. Mark was automatically ruled out in the beginning, because I was wanting to witness how adult Methodist discussed politics, religion, and the raising of their children.
The Story of Hagar and Ishmael: Good Advise? Are Just Another Miracle Baby Tebow?
As my meths addiction is now back to being a daily habit again, ended up following the advice suggested by the first of the two Sunday services attended at St. Mark; the one where Hagar and Ishmael are sent away...and almost dying in the desert.
DeKalb Crisis Center: Three Year Anniversary
Had I a crystal ball and knew what I now know, would have done this a long time ago. All along, these trips of theirs from Arkansas to visit me here in Atlanta were about them instead of me. Three valuable years wasted on them for them to have heard nothing; even more years taken away from the end of mine. And now finding myself in an even deeper hole needing to crawl out of.
All we have to do, is work on a way introducing me to your congregation up front as to who and what I'm am. Then they come to me with invitations joining them in their discussions/activities. This way the shock value, will be lessened, but not eliminated. From this point, I will work with you on figuring out ways getting other Churches sharing this burden with you.
Think of it as a form of reverse enumeration of our sets into one. As there are already too many sets within the Christian sect alone, I will be in my own set, all by my lonesome, as an Simply Jim: TRULY BLUE BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL; giving us only two sets starting with. Everyone else will be in a set labeled only as "PALE BLUE DOT"; living the shell part of an oyster potentially having a pearl but for now...
just an irritating piece of grit.
As this Methodist Church is TGO, really don't see the need worrying too much; as it should already be used to drama. Rev. Noblitt certainly has no excuse being easily ruffled by my act as he's even a counselor in addition to theater; unless...maybe feeling threatened by....what he see as...competition? Just think Marilyn Monroe's Method Acting.
Anyway, ultimate goal hoping for, at least discussing at some point, is moving me into Glenn Memorial. Even asking advise about a Methodist Tribunal or some form of reconciliation with the help of Emory University. The scars are just too deep for this to simply go away by the use shunning; and made worse with each perniciousness and prevarication.
"Wit should be more like the nibble of a sheep than the bite of a dog; for if it's like the bite of a dog it's no longer witty but insulting instead."
Sincerely Yours,
James E. Avery, DVM
(404) 788-9263
Saint Mark
UNITED METHODIST CHURCH
781 Peachtree Street, NE
Atlanta, Georgia 30308-1205
404.873.2636
facsimile: 404.873.2639
office@stmarkumc.org
WWW.stmarkumc .org
July 1,2015
To James Avery,
Acting on behalf of the congregation as represented by Administrative Council of Saint Mark United Methodist Church, we, the Board of Trustees, hereby notify James Avery that his presence on the property of Saint Mark United Methodist Church, 781 Peachtree Street NE, Atlanta Georgia 30308; bounded by Peachtree Street, Fifth Street, and Juniper Street, shall constitute a criminal trespass from the time of the delivery of this notice forward.
E.C. LaRocca-Pitts
Senior Pastor, representing the Board of Trustees
Loving
Accepting
Serving
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