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Friday, July 14, 2017

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People living in a DeKalb County neighborhood say they have been terrorized for years.

Toco Hills man refuses to remove offensive signs from yard

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Charles Langevin The First Amendment is there to protect people with unpopular views. If the neighbors continue to ask the government to harass him, your follow up story will be how large his taxpayer funded settlement check was and how many signs he bought with it.

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Chris Marquez I don't think you understand how the first amendment works. The neighbors aren't getting the police involved because of what he's saying. They're getting them involved because he's become a public nuisance and is driving down property values and delaying/nullifying sales of surrounding homes due to his harassment of others.

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John Roberts I don't think you understand the first amendment Chris Marquez. Your rights aren't suspended because of property values and as long as he is following city codes on the number of signs in his yard then he is free to post them there.

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Chris Marquez I understand it very well as I have degrees in political science. Your rights end where mine begin. Freedom of Speech only protects you from being prosecuted from WHAT you say (and there are some limits to that as well). It doesn't protect you from being prosecuted for harassing people. He's cut back the number of signs to be compliant. That's fine. But it's still against the law for him to stand outside and yell at his neighbors and passersby. That creates a public nuisance and you can be arrested or fined for it. The first amendment doesn't protect you from that.

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Toni Arnold He's a meth head. He needs to go to jail.

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Charles Langevin Chris Marquez your political science degree fails you. This is why government keeps violating people's rights. Those in government don't study the Constitution, but rather try to learn a way to circumvent it. Speech cannot be regulated based upon the idea being conveyed. There is no inherent right to be protected from your neighbor doing something on his own property which diminishes the value of yours. See Reed v. Town of Gilbert.

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Charles Langevin Toni Arnold why would he go to jail? Meth is 100% legal (providing you call it Desoxyn). The "drug war" is an excuse to keep poor and brown people in prison and politicians' coffers full of pharmaceutical companies' money.

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Keith Yancey Chris Marquez the first amendment reads thus: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
It does NOT say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, except when an individual is posting signs in his or her yard that I don't like."
A neighbor putting signs in his yard, no matter how obnoxious they may be, is not harassment and is not a violation of yours or anyone else's rights.

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Chris Marquez There isn't a law forbidding him from putting what he wants on a sign in his yard. But there are laws about how many signs he can have. They were written to protect the rights of his neighbors. He has recently started to comply with that ordinance. So that part is fine. There are also laws forbidding him from creating a public disturbance and verbally assaulting his neighbors. Those laws also do not violate his first amendment rights.

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Charles Langevin Chris Marquez there is no such thing as "verbal assault." What poly-sci book did you get that from?

🤣. Every "public disturbance" law that has ever been created restricting speech has been struck down by the Courts. I challenge you to find me an exception.

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Keith Yancey "Verbal assault" isn't a thing. And his neighbors don't have a right to dictate what he does with his property. He's not in an HOA.
If his neighbors don't want to look at his signs, they can pull a Donald Trump and build a "big, beautiful, 7 foot wall" (I don't think Mexico will pay for it though...)

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Steven Newman I don't like what he's doing one bit or the messages on his signs..... But as an American I believe in his right to say it. That is what used to make our nation great, personal freedom. Ordinances that limit the amount of signs and where they can be posted are good laws. I would hate to live next door to him, but his rights stand. We are shifting to a place in this nation where if you feel "offended" by something someone else says, then you want it shut down. That is NOT freedom.

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Sabrina Tumminello Ormond Standing on the sidewalk, which is public property, and being disorderly while intoxicated by a controlled substance is grounds for arrest. He admittedly said he is on meth. Arrest him for public intoxication.

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Trini Badd Why don't you have him 1013'd and committed to a psych facility?

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Chanda RobertsWhite Who is he harming? When he gets out, the signs will be right back. Can't force someone to psychiatric care if not harm to self if others.

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Tonya Caldwell Might make him worse...

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Trini Badd Tonya Caldwell or it could calm him down.

Trini Badd Chanda RobertsWhite they do it to people all the time who act out, whether they are harming themselves or others all the time. The police can pick him up to be evaluated. Got to start somewhere sometimes for stuff like this to end. Sorry for those who feel that have to move because of this!!

Issac Reid you can't just have a person 1013'D. THATS NUTS. They can only do that if you might harm yourself or appear to be a danger to others.

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CBS46

People living in a DeKalb County neighborhood say they have been terrorized for years.

Toco Hills man refuses to remove offensive signs from yard

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Peter Wells-Mahla I always saw his signs and thought how strange they were - I hate that he is causing his neighbor problems.

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James Taylor Upscale neighborhood in Toco Hills ? Lol

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James Avery I thought the same thing!

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James Avery As we must first be introduced to God before being aware of God. As I was born into First United Methodist Church of Prescott, Arkansas, population four thousand. Helped raised by that church up until graduating high school. As stuff put into our heads when a kid never really goes away. I'm realizing only recently, although label myself radical atheist, that I have always been and forever always will be Methodist till the day I die no less than Jesus every stopped being a Jew. That one can be both Methodist F*g and radical Atheist at the same time while refusing to label himself Christian. Now if others (including our Muslim extremist halfway around the world from us) are wanting labeling me a Christian for whatever reasons of their own, they are more then welcome doing so. But let's be honest with ourselves; this isn't how it works with our Christians. Is it? What I'm currently yelling at the Emory (Methodist) traffic leaving campus late afternoon: JOHN 3! MINUS 1-15! "F*CK YOU!" Nothing but a thoughts terminating cliche! Why not truth be God; universal one instead? Why not? Why not? IN GOD WE TRUST! WHY NOT! JOHN 3! MINUS 1-15! As it relates to God, John 3:16 is just another congeniality biased pro-life "MY SIDE" choice. As far as our "Miracle Baby" Tebow goes: Too bad they ain't Catholic. He would have made a great Priest. Unless already, "Hell Mary Santorum." You will just have to google the meaning of "Santorum" yourself. As I have never had vaginal sex with a woman, even at the age of fifty five I'm still technically a virgin.

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James Avery I'm the bad neighbor this newscast is about. I'm going to explain up front the meaning behind the three monkeys hanging by their necks off one arm of a large cross nail to a tree. They generally mean being of sound mind, body and action. They can also mean looking the other way, refusing to acknowledge, feigning ignorance. When combining both perspective into a single narrative, the cancel each other out being most unhelpful. You might as well hang them. Hang them from off one arm of a cross. Fast forward seven years later. Although have explained the meaning behind these monkey to anyone walking sidewalk front of my home willing listening; still coming back around to me that these monkeys are racially motivated.

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Mike Jones Terrorize???
verb

create and maintain a state of extreme fear and distress in (someone); fill with terror.

synonyms: persecute, victimize, torment, harass, tyrannize, intimidate, menace, threaten, bully, browbeat; Sounds like what his neighbors are doing to him.

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Katie Jones I agree that I thought "terrorize" was a dramatic choice of words. However, my brother lives around the corner from him and I can assure you the neighbors are not the problem.

The root problem appears to be poor mental health and drug use. My brother finds it sad- doesn't harass him or anything. Just drives by and lets him exercise his first amendment rights while the guy gives him the finger and screams nonsense. It really is a sad situation.

Mike Jones I'm not defending his actions, and "terrorize" is not the word to use for whats he's doing.

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Teressa Velasco File a lawsuit against him for devaluing your property? I mean, if you literally cannot sell your house because of him, he has done you harm. Other than that - Rock on, Crazy Dude!

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Jennifer Silvers Trimble Actually, if they have a little money they can get him out. It will take a couple years but well worth it. The article stated the neighbors have proof that the reason they were unable to sell their home is due to the bad neighbor. The good neighbors can actually ALL sue the bad guy in civil court for the loss of property value etc. All they need is a paper stating the buyer was going to buy the house but decided not to solely due to the bad guy. Of they all sue him for thousands of dollars, they could force him to sell and move or if they get judgement in their favor actually begin seizing his assets including the house if he doesn't pay.

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Jameson Korytoski We questioned him for 20 minutes. Much of what he said was hard to follow, perhaps due to his admitted use of crystal meth.
Uh, arrest him for that. Duh. Then take down his signs.

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T.D. Wade Why not just drive past his home to your own home and driveway. Park your vehicle. Walk inside your home and close your door? That way you can mind your own business. You see when you close your door you dont hear or see what is going on outside. You are in your own world. You people influence him by giving him the attention.

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Kathy Thompson there is always someone that will take offense to everything... what about the US Constitution.. come on folks

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John Roberts In case you forgot about this thing called the #Constitution and the fact that it protects this man's free speech, just remember that #SCOTUSjust recently upheld unpopular speech as free speech.
This is also on this mans private property, so everyone else can just get over it.

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Toni Arnold But he's a crackhead....

John Roberts But he's still an American citizen...

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Reggie Miller good for this guy, utilising his rights...sucks for the folks living near him but that's the risk one takes buying into a subdivision or neighborhood with everyone living in close proximity... perhaps if they ever get out of there they will take that into consideration before purchasing again..

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Charles Langevin The First Amendment is there to protect people with unpopular views. If the neighbors continue to ask the government to harass him, your follow up story will be how large his taxpayer funded settlement check was and how many signs he bought with it.

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Chris Marquez I don't think you understand how the first amendment works. The neighbors aren't getting the police involved because of what he's saying. They're getting them involved because he's become a public nuisance and is driving down property values and delaying/nullifying sales of surrounding homes due to his harassment of others.

John Roberts I don't think you understand the first amendment Chris Marquez. Your rights aren't suspended because of property values and as long as he is following city codes on the number of signs in his yard then he is free to post them there.

Chris Marquez I understand it very well as I have degrees in political science. Your rights end where mine begin. Freedom of Speech only protects you from being prosecuted from WHAT you say (and there are some limits to that as well). It doesn't protect you from being prosecuted for harassing people. He's cut back the number of signs to be compliant. That's fine. But it's still against the law for him to stand outside and yell at his neighbors and passersby. That creates a public nuisance and you can be arrested or fined for it. The first amendment doesn't protect you from that.

Toni Arnold He's a meth head. He needs to go to jail.

Charles Langevin Chris Marquez your political science degree fails you. This is why government keeps violating people's rights. Those in government don't study the Constitution, but rather try to learn a way to circumvent it. Speech cannot be regulated based upon the idea being conveyed. There is no inherent right to be protected from your neighbor doing something on his own property which diminishes the value of yours. See Reed v. Town of Gilbert.

Charles Langevin Toni Arnold why would he go to jail? Meth is 100% legal (providing you call it Desoxyn). The "drug war" is an excuse to keep poor and brown people in prison and politicians' coffers full of pharmaceutical companies' money.

Keith Yancey Chris Marquez the first amendment reads thus: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
It does NOT say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, except when an individual is posting signs in his or her yard that I don't like."
A neighbor putting signs in his yard, no matter how obnoxious they may be, is not harassment and is not a violation of yours or anyone else's rights.

Chris Marquez There isn't a law forbidding him from putting what he wants on a sign in his yard. But there are laws about how many signs he can have. They were written to protect the rights of his neighbors. He has recently started to comply with that ordinance. So that part is fine. There are also laws forbidding him from creating a public disturbance and verbally assaulting his neighbors. Those laws also do not violate his first amendment rights.

Charles Langevin Chris Marquez there is no such thing as "verbal assault." What poly-sci book did you get that from?

🤣. Every "public disturbance" law that has ever been created restricting speech has been struck down by the Courts. I challenge you to find me an exception.

Keith Yancey "Verbal assault" isn't a thing. And his neighbors don't have a right to dictate what he does with his property. He's not in an HOA.
If his neighbors don't want to look at his signs, they can pull a Donald Trump and build a "big, beautiful, 7 foot wall" (I don't think Mexico will pay for it though...)

Steven Newman I don't like what he's doing one bit or the messages on his signs..... But as an American I believe in his right to say it. That is what used to make our nation great, personal freedom. Ordinances that limit the amount of signs and where they can be posted are good laws. I would hate to live next door to him, but his rights stand. We are shifting to a place in this nation where if you feel "offended" by something someone else says, then you want it shut down. That is NOT freedom.

Sabrina Tumminello Ormond Standing on the sidewalk, which is public property, and being disorderly while intoxicated by a controlled substance is grounds for arrest. He admittedly said he is on meth. Arrest him for public intoxication.

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Brandy Lawrence Sadly , he is protected with first amendment with the signs. Now hollering at passing cars could be disturbing the peace but if it's during the day....it will be hard to press that. Giving him a platform on the news was the worst thing because he craves attention and you gave it to him. Now he definitely won't stop and will probably become even more offensive.

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Sheva Bree Dude. Get treatment. Something. This is not how you 'start a discussion'. this is how you get tazed and put in a hug me jacket.

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Tonya Ward This is sad he must be real lonely. He needs hug. LOL

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Carla Broyles In this case, it's unfortunate that first amendment rights extend to everyone. But one day he'll likely find himself on the receiving end of someone's second amendment rights. Hey CBS, what's a "relator"? I guess the proofreader's still on vacation.

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Keith Yancey The bootlickers are out in droves on this thread today

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Tonya Roberts Hahaha I wouldn't use the word, "terrorize!"

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Cyndi Moore I feel real bad for those homeowners. They are stuck in his craziness.

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Tonya Caldwell This guy reminds me of some folks we have around here that belong to a church ...they stand at intersections with megaphones and Bible verses screaming at people that they must repent or burn in hell...they have a school bus that they also stand on top of and yell ...they come up to your car and give you scriptures about the end if the world and how we all will burn for our sins... We dubbed them the screaming Jesus people... But everyone just ignores them.

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Harry H. VanDusen I agree Tonya, I don't see any difference

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Harry H. VanDusen Looks like CBS 46 is giving him exactly what he wants

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Melissa McCurry This guy is already taunting you guys on fb. Lol If he does meth, get him charged on that.

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Chanda RobertsWhite Police would have to catch him using drugs or in possession of such.
He is s nusance but not physically harming others.

Michael T. Pagano So you follow him...

Melissa McCurry I read the article posted. He has comments at the bottom. He's an odd duck, that's for sure.

Melissa McCurry Chanda RobertsWhite he threatens and yells everyday. I would think there could be a solution that makes everyone happy. I don't know what done piss this guy off, but something needs to happen.

Chanda RobertsWhite True something has to give. If calling the police or complaints increases his eractic and disrespectful behavior, then leave him alone. Ignore him, kill him with kindness. But complaining seems to be a trigger, so let his ornery drug using behind alone.

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Jim Cozzens A crazy old tweaker yelling at people is terrorizing?

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Peter Ent He's managed to create a very tricky situation. On the one hand there is freedom of speech and on the other there is how it is adversely affecting his neighbors. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything but he might be just at the edge there. I really feel sorry for his neighbors. The man clearly has mental problems.

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John Roberts actually it does mean exactly that. Unpopular speech is free speech , #SCOTUS just recently reminded Americans of that...

Michael T. Pagano And then there's the meth...

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Michael T. Pagano He's publicly admitted use of crystal meth. There's gotta be a way to bust him right there.

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Jay Michael Jones I've driven by this place. The guy is loopy, offensive and has harassed some of his neighbors because they were gay - but he's in his own yard and therefore within his rights according to the letter of the law. Maybe in time he will burn through all his money and find himself unemployable and unable to pay his taxes. Then he'll be on the street yelling at passersby until he finally goes to meet his God. Won't he be surprised when he is reminded he should have loved his neighbors?

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Randy Lillquist Meth head for Jesus , you can't make this S#%^ up!

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Lori Dawson he has his own YouTube channel. this is from his latest entry:
https://youtu.be/EYdcxHF8TUM?t=8m41s

July 7, 2017 phenology 007 Sidewalk Rant By The Mailbox,…

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Katherine Gauntt His house is on a curve in the road. More than one accident has occurred as a result. I have passed it a thousand times and have never figured out his point of view because the messages dont make sense. Personally, I think he does it because it annoys others and thats his objective. Just another troll in my book. However, he has created an "attractive nuisance" much like an unfenced swimming pool. My solution...have him build a fence high enough so traffic cannot see the signs and cause an accident. Then, he can "free speech" all day long.

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Jeff Jetton He wants attention and you gave him plenty.

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Beverly Nickens OMG in the video he said he was addicted to Crystal meth. I didn't know he was on drugs, I just assumed he was just mentally ill. I sometimes pass by his house because I work in that area and he is screaming at the top of his lungs, pointing his middle finger to all the cars that pass by and some of the signs are vulgar and explicit.

I feel sorry for the people that have to live next door to him...I wonder how do they get any sleep with all that yelling.

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Trini Badd Why don't you have him 1013'd and committed to a psych facility?

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Chanda RobertsWhite Who is he harming? When he gets out, the signs will be right back. Can't force someone to psychiatric care if not harm to self if others.

Tonya Caldwell Might make him worse...

Trini Badd Tonya Caldwell or it could calm him down.

Trini Badd Chanda RobertsWhite they do it to people all the time who act out, whether they are harming themselves or others all the time. The police can pick him up to be evaluated. Got to start somewhere sometimes for stuff like this to end. Sorry for those who feel that have to move because of this!!

Issac Reid you can't just have a person 1013'D. THATS NUTS. They can only do that if you might harm yourself or appear to be a danger to others.

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Adam Mercer This guy just needs a facebook account like the rest of us.

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Katie Weisbecker Matthew Kosmala

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Gerry Hall The first amendment protects all forms of speech. The man posts his signs on his own property. I don't see how the rest of the neighborhood has a right to use the government to stifle his free speech.

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Greta Mellerson lol

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Evan Wiley His troll game is strong

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Tonya Caldwell He is in his own yard...the guy has a right to do this ...it's America.
Got to love crazy

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